Are ALL people with depression SUICIDAL? | Kati Morton

Are ALL people with depression SUICIDAL? | Kati Morton

Hey everybody! Happy Thursday and it’s not just any Thursday, it’s the first Thursday of May! Ta-da! And May is mental health awareness month. That’s why I’ve got all this garb on. I’ve got my green ribbon to represent it, I’ve got a green ribbon necklace, I’ve got a bracelet, I’ve got pens, I’ve got all sorts of stuff cos Janae Wells, a member of our community, is raising awareness in her local community and she sent me a whole box filled with all sorts of goodies and things and so I decided I would just wear it all today, to show you and remind you that May is mental health awareness month and there are a bunch of different hashtags like #stigmafree, #mentalhealthawareness. This is our month guys lets make the most of it! So I would encourage all of you during this month to share information online, positive, helpful, educational information about mental health because people are talking about it and we really just need to monopolize on this, we’re always hoping people will talk more, there’ll be more education and awareness surrounding mental health and this is our month so if there’s something that I tweet out or a video I have created that you really like please share that, if somebody else has tweeted something out, created a video or if you want to create a video, anything to help spread awareness and share our experiences and our education around mental health because it’s really important that we utilize this month as a way to, you know, move our cause forward, raise more awareness, du-du-du-duh! So, anyway I have all sorts of goodies and thank you Janae for sending that stuff to me. Before I forget, I will have my first live-stream on YouNow, have you heard of it, YouNow? This Saturday at 1pm so get ready it’s just Kati Morton it’s just my name you can find me it’ll be my first live-stream, so I’m going to be answering your questions, talking to you live, for about an hour, are you ready? I thought it’d be a good time to start it in May, being mental health awareness month so I can’t wait to see you there on Saturday! And I’m also sick but I promise I’ll be feeling better by then, I slept in this morning, I’m going to sleep more, enough about me, colds happen right. So the question today is something that I want to talk about because mental health awareness month is here and I know there’s a lot of misconceptions about suicide and depression and the question is: Can you address the idea that all people with depression, any type, are suicidal? Now I want to address this because it’s a false, that’s a false statement. Not everyone with depression has suicidal thoughts, those two can be related, like if we were drawing on my whiteboard, I should have brought that out but, if we were drawing those circles, you know people’d be like “yeah they kinda overlap” right this one circle being depression, depression can feel like; concentration difficulties, can feel like body aches, it can feel like irritability were you just want to lash out at people, it can even feel kinda like anxiety were we ruminate about things and “ugh man I was so stupid with that” and duh-duh-duh duh, it could be that right there’s a million ways, it could be appetite, decreased appetite, sleep, we’ve all heard about it right? I have many videos, one of the most popular is a “Six signs of depression”, there are many more than six but, suicidality or suicidal thoughts, is only one portion of that. So the two can overlap, but they don’t always go together, and I think that that’s really important for people to understand, and one of the things that was actually really hard for me as an intern or a ‘trainee’ when I was first starting to be an actual “therapist” when I was in grad school, was to understand that by talking about suicidal thoughts and talking about suicide, you weren’t making someone more suicidal, you’re not “giving them” suicidal ideas, you’re not putting it in their brain and going to make them suicidal, it’s actually really helpful and can be really healing for them just to say “yeah I’ve been having the thoughts but you know, I’m not going to do it or anything, but yeah it’s there” you know, their okay talking about it or at least that’s the way I am with my clients, I talk about it just like I talk about everything else because I want to know if it’s getting worse, I want to know how they’re feeling and me talking about it isn’t going to make it happen so if you’re a parent or if you’re a friend of someone who’s struggling, and you’re really worried that by talking about it you’re going to make it worse, that’s just not the case, if they’re already talking to you a little bit about their struggle and you have a good, like an open, communication, a good relationship around that, it’s okay to bring it up, It’s okay to talk about it, the more we talk about it the better, because suicidality and suicidal thoughts in general, I feel, come out of sheer hopelessness. Feeling that there’s nowhere to turn, there’s nothing they can do, nothing’s ever going to get better, and all of the thoughts that come along with that and so the more we talk about it the better, and that’s why mental health awareness month is so important! So I hope that this kinda helped clear things up, depression and suicide can go together, but they don’t always go together, there are so many different ways that we can feel depressed and there’s so many different reasons that we can feel suicidal, not all people who are suicidal are even depressed. Like I said I think it really comes more from like a hopelessness, end of my rope. A lot of things could have happened recently that just made us feel like we have nowhere to turn and nothing to do and it’s not getting better, all of those things are more what leads to suicide. So please, share this video, share positive information, educate people around you lets utilize the month of May to raise more awareness, cos we’re doing it all the time but now a lot more people are listening to it, and all the more reason to share right? Like on Facebook and stuff. So I will leave some hashtags below and links to different organisations that are really putting their weight behind mental health awareness month, and I will see you all on Saturday on YouNow for my live-stream okay? I’ll see you then! Bye! Subtitles by the community


  1. I've been asking my parents to take me to a therapist because I know that I have depression and anxiety and I think some other ones but they say that it's just my hormones because I'm 15 how do I convince them that something really is wrong and it's not just my hormones

  2. Idk I hate u and don't bc most of the time I just want to ask u something but u never answer so yea kinda depressed and i have depression but no not every dressed person is suicidal

  3. Right on! Even in my deepest, darkest depressions, I have NEVER been suicidal…and I have been EXTREMELY depressed more than once. I might say that I hate my life and wish it weren't like it is, but I have never, ever thought about ending it!

  4. Omg I had no idea that it was mental health awareness month! But thank you for making those helpful videos πŸ™‚ I really appreciate what you do for us! Thank you:)

  5. Kati i'm really worried! i have anxiety, depression and a big problem with food. I go to a place called CAMHS which is child and adolescent mental health service run by the NHS in England and today i got told that i will NOT see my therapist EVER AGAIN and i'm absolutely PETRIFIED! I will not get any help from CAMHS until February 2017 because the waiting list to get more intense therapy etc is soooooooooo long. I don't know what to do!!! I feel like i have just been rejected, like no one cares about me anymore. I have told my therapist things that i have not even told my own parents and now i am never going to see her again, and i just feel like there was NO point in me even bothering to tell her because now i feel like i have just been thrown into a bin and as if everything i told my therapist went in one ear and out the other. I need help, i am scared!!! my mood is literally like a roller coster, i will have times where i am so low i have considered suicude and other times where i am so happy i don't know what to do with myself. i am just really lost Kati, i really don't know what to do, i am all on my own with my horrible nasty head. How am i going to survive until Feb 2017!!!??? πŸ™ Please can you give me some advice, or just tell me it will all be ok πŸ™ ;( πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™

  6. kati I want to see a therapist to talk about what I'm feeling because I think it will help alot. but I can't talk to my parents about it or ask them can I see a therapist because I feel like they will just judge me and want to know why and I don't want to tell them. please help any advice would be amazing.

  7. I didn't even know it was mental health awareness now. Thnx for letting us know and for setting the stigma straight. hope u feel better soon

  8. I've depression and ocd but currently it seems like my main struggle is my bpd yet no one is willing to help my my psychiatrist is apprehensive when it comes to diagnosing someone underage with a personality disorder so I'm left undiagnosed and untreated and it's spiraling out of control and i have absolutely no idea what to do i have experienced the most explosive rage attacks, the lowest of moods,extreme emptiness,constantly questioning myself and others,and i have the strongest belief that people are fucking fake liars who never loved me and they all fucking leave , sometimes i feel out of touch with reality and out of touch with myself especially my memories, i have been hospitalized for a suicide attempt in december,and whenever I'm really depressed i do some not so wise stuff usually i down some pills and then i pay the price the next few days , everything is so overwhelming my feelings are extreme and so are my relationships(although i don't have a lot those anymore ha) and whats worst about this is how helpless i feel that everyone can see my weakness it's not as easy to hide as other mental illnesses and it breaks me that people can tell something's wrong with me i hate that they can tell that I'm suffering i feel so weak and i just feel like screaming, what should i do ? #katiFAQ

  9. Hey Kati i live in louisville ky and Saturday is derby day … i'd like to watch your live feed but not during what is considered Chrismas in my family lol but good luck and hope it goes well

  10. I dont say when i am .i just try 2 do it..I dont want 2 cry 4 help i just want 2 check out of this world..when im n that state of mind…

  11. I loves this I love all your vids you are my idol and role model kati . I now have a mental health youtube channel .

  12. Thanks for another wonderful and informative video! It's nice to know their are people out their who care enough to help πŸ™‚ Keep it up please!! i'm sending this video to a close friend of mine who I know has been worried about this! xx

  13. Hey Kati, i want to ask you one important question.
    My mood is changing every hour and sometimes every few minutes: one minute i'm really positive and the next second i become sad, like i'm about to cry and then i get mad at myself because i feel pathetic. I don't know how to manage my emotions and what's happening in my head, it really affects my social and school life, and i feel like i'm going insane every day. Does that mean i'm bipolar? HELP me! πŸ™

  14. I didn't know it was mental health awareness month until this video. I will be sharing this on Facebook. Thanks for another classic video. πŸ™‚

  15. i wish it didn't hurt
    i wish i didn't matter
    i wish i didn't care
    i wish i was happy
    i wish i had money
    i wish i was pretty
    i wish i could sleep at night
    i wish i enjoyed my life
    i wish i could just enjoy food
    i wish you were there
    i wish you meant it
    i wish i was different
    i wish i lived somewhere else
    i wish i didn't exist
    i wish…………………………..Believe in yourself and all that you are.
    Know that there is something inside you,
    Life matters no matter how shitty it is now.
    You deserve a good life so fight for it.
    There are ppl who help you.
    You can beat it.
    Love you.

  16. I just wanted to say that without you encouraging mental health and wellness, I may not have had the mindset to go into therapy and ask for anti-depressants after losing my father last month.

  17. I didnΒ΄t knew that may is the month of mental health awareness. A few weeks ago I told a really close friend about my self harm and showed her first my scars on my arm than the scars on my stomach. As she saw the scars on my stomach she told me that she just heard a little bit about cutting and she thought that only people cut their arms, not other parts of their body. So well, I think itΒ΄s really important to have a month for mental health awareness, even though we should be aware every month.

  18. Kati your videos are very interesting and informative, thank you! I follow you on Snapchat, have you ever considered doing a Snapchat Q&A?

  19. I went to my first ever job interview today and it went so well (I got the job!) and I just wanted to thank you for your videos because even a year ago I know it wouldn't have happened. I got help and medication for depression and anxiety and I've always been really shy but I managed to do the interview and contribute to group activities and actually felt confident for the first time in my life, and that's thanks to me finding your videos <33

  20. could you explain how someone who is suicidal may not be depressed? i think suicide is always caused by depression

  21. Hi Katie! Would it be possible to cover the topics about fear of intimacy and how it affects not only the lives of others but primarily the persons experiencing the fear. I'd also appreciate immensely if you could explain the connection to childhood and relationship to parents. Thank you and I'll make the best of this month!

  22. Hi Kati, again amazing video thank you πŸ™‚ I was wondering if you could do a video on attachment styles, the differences and how you can work towards becoming securely attached or working with your own attachment style ?

    Thank you again you're AMAZING xx

  23. What about homicidal thoughts and depression? Nobody talks about them, but I think some people experience them.

  24. Hey I'm new to the channel! I'm interested to know what your thoughts are on dating when having a mental illness, especially if the other person you're seeing also has a mental illness or if you're the only partner in the relationship with a mental illness.

  25. I'm raising awarness at my school! we are hanging out magnets, stickers, and information about all types of mental health!

  26. did you do a video on what it's like to be a therapist? how do you name what someone has? what do you as a therapist look for?

  27. I had no idea May was Mental Health Awareness month. I knew it was Brain Cancer awareness month since I have a friend that survived. Their color is grey for anyone curious. I'll have to think of a video to do, but in all honesty..May has always been a bad month for me Mental Health wise. I just really struggle with things this time of year πŸ™

  28. Kati, one of my friends has been telling me he's tired of living. He's pretty severely depressed, is in a terrible life situation right now, and has been so resistant to treatment he doesn't even consider it a viable option anymore. I asked him if he's in danger of hurting himself and he said no, but I'm still worried. Should I be? He lives in another state, so I can't really determine for myself whether or not I should believe him when he says he's not going to do anything.

  29. sickness happens more when you are writing books as well rest up and dont stress yourself out put your book first especially since vidcon is coming up

    thx for this ha bisky vid and i dont usually feel suicidal and i have been dealing with sever depression since i was 7 if not younger

  30. I am depressed and I've never self harmed or attempted to commit suicide. I don't give it much thought tbh. I enjoy life but you're right about the hopelessness part. I find that's what my depression is. Not many suicidal thoughts but a lot of little self worth, shame, anxiety, thoughts that never end and etc.

  31. Is it just me or when the teacher makes me talk about how I feel it makes me more sad??

  32. My school actually just hosted our second annual Stomp Out Suicide Walk. As a person with a history of suicide attempts myself and constant struggles I had to wear green beads. Very very nerve wrecking to wear and display to the world, almost like screaming I HAVE TRIED TO KILL MYSELF. But later I realized there were more of us. I actually saw a girl there that I haven't been close with since elementary (I'm a sophomore now) and she shared the same struggle. I feel like this month should be about bringing us closer together and helping us help one another! I love your videos Kati. I really really appreciate all the work you put in.

  33. i wanna share stuff for MHAMonth but i'm always so worried that talking about mental illness on social media will make ppl think im attention seeking. ahhh.

  34. #katiFAQ I just wondering why so many people on intagram etc. posting depressing and triggering stuff even though they write they want to recover and can I personally do something about it like texting those persons? thanks πŸ™‚

  35. Can I ask questions in any video comments? Sorry I don't know if I'm doing this right!
    Hi Kati, if my therapist doesn't directly tells me a diagnosis (like "you have anxiety disorder, you have such and such" etc) does that mean I don't have it? Or is there another reason she might decide to just carry on without validating the idea of an anxiety disorder? Searching the web I feel a lot of things related to anxiety and that's why I'm going to therapy, but I never ask her directly if it's actually a thing I have or not because I think I'm being pretentious, but at the same time when she doesn't say anything it's like what I feel is no big deal because it isn't "official"…? Does that make any sense?

  36. Hi Katie, can you please talk about Bipolar type 2? A lot of people talk about Bipolar but not everyone realizes there's a type 2. It would be helpful especially coming from a mental health professional if you could shed a little light on this. Thanks!

  37. i was wondering where to get the wrist bands from for the cheapest price and by the way love your videos so inspiring

  38. Is it normal to have suicidal triggers? There are songs I cannot listen to right now because I feel like it'll push me over the edge.

  39. Wow, I had no idea it was MHAM. What a nice coincidence… 5-5 (my "lucky" day, because five is my favorite number) and more importantly, I finally can get to see a psychiatrist this month! I had a friend tell a councillor about what's going on, and now I can finally get help. <3

  40. I love how she says "just because you have depression doesn't mean you're suicidal and Just because you're suicidal doesn't mean you have depression ." At least someone's addressing this topic #endthestigma ✊?❀️

  41. I was suicidal before I was diagnosed with depression. I was diagnosed with anxiety and PTSD as a child, but never flat out depression. My freshman year of high school I started thinking about suicide, and that's when I was diagnosed with depression.

  42. @kaitimorton hi Kati umm could you explain why most therapists only do 6 meetings with you. I was not ready to leave but they said to go. Know I'm seeing a different one and I have another one for summer all ready.

  43. Do you think it'll ever get better? I mean, I feel as if nothing I do helps, I feel as if everything is just going downhill, and that nothing is changing! Will it ever get better?

  44. Thanks for the video Kati!
    I am one of those people with depression that tends to have suicidal thoughts and that a lot of the depression symptoms but I am slowly learning ways to cope with it.
    It's really hard to talk about to this day but I do email my friends and case manger about my pain when I really feel I need to.

  45. kati I have a question which is how do I tell my parents that I need a break from the pressures that they put on me and have school stress on top of it?

  46. #KatiFAQ Hi Kati (and any Kinions who may have some advice), I've been in treatment for an eating disorder and have been improving, so everyone on my team except my therapist (who I still see once a week) has been decreasing my appointment frequency while also asking me to do things that I find extremely difficult or triggering (increasing food variety, increasing exercise, and trying to get me to put on a swimming suit and go swimming). I've tried to ask for more support because I'm struggling to maintain what progress I've made, but instead feel like I'm getting even less as appointments get spaced out more and I am asked to make more challenging changes. My external support system is not good because I live far from home and am in an intense graduate program with only a few friends. I'm not sure what to do because I feel like my team is giving up on me because they don't know what to tell me anymore or think I'm doing better than I am. Or is it just part of the treatment process to reach a point where I have to wean off of the support?

  47. What do you do if you don't want to recover in fear of relapsing or going back to old habits and being worse than before or people being disappointed in you and maybe even giving up on your recovery? Thanks for all your help and all your great and informing videos! πŸ™‚

  48. I have friend name Taylor and we Been friends for 1 year and on Tuesday afternoon she wanted to talk and show me something and she did. She showed cuts on her arm. After that she was singing to me and my best friend Taylor told me she ran away and she did and she wanted me to go and I didn't I yelled at her. What do I say when she wants to run away.?

  49. I felt that way when I was in my old school I had a hard time everyone hated me all the time I ran out of class just cause I wasn't doing great. When I was public school my school was name Murdock and Murdock wasn't the best school for me I had no friends at sll. One time I was in class I was having anxiety attack because I was missing one of my favorite teachers. The teacher was gonna call the police on me and my teacher called my mom and she told that my sister was gonna get me and I ran out of the class. Now I'm in the best school I'm homeschool now I'm doing really well I'm getting all A's I'm thankful to have the best school.

  50. Hey Katie! Thanks for all your great videos, they really help me when I'm feeling down; you're such a postive and charismatic person!! This hasn't got anything to do with the topic of the video but I was just wondering if you could answer a question on here for me as I'm unsure how to submit it through your website…
    I'm a 'recovered anorexic' but I am also in vocational training to be a professional dancer and I'm doing much more exercise than a 'normal' person (around 5-7 hours a day!) I therefore find that when I'm on holiday and thus not dancing that I feel very guilty and often end up restricting my calories or forcing myself to exercise because otherwise I feel like I'm being lazy! I'm concerned that, as this has been happening more and more as I've gained weight and am now WR, this is my ED voice talking and I'm not as recovered as everyone else thinks I am! I also feel that, as dancing is such a visual practice and so much depends on the way you look I definitely need to keep myself lean and super fit, however I find I'm a bit conflicted: on one side the part of my brain that's 'pro-recovery', so to speak, wants me to eat a non-restrictive diet and not feel the compulsion to exercise every single day, while the 'dancer' part of me makes me feel like monitoring my weight is part of the prefession and calorie restriction is something I should be doing in order to remain competitive. How do I find a balance without stopping dancing or letting my ED thoughts take over? I'm sorry this is so long, but I really hope you reply because I've been struggling with these issues for a while…Best wishes xxx

  51. It's hard to believe that anyone would think that ALL people with depression are suicidal. If that were true, none of us would be here. We all get depressed from time to time.

  52. I'm in no doubt your videos have prob saved my life, the 3am when you don't know where to go with your crap, there's a gentle 'it'll be ok.' Thank you Kati.
    Hope. Hold On Pain Ends ?

  53. This topic is very important I think! At least where I live, I feel like your depression is not taken seriously UNLESS you are at the very bottom with suicidal thoughts. It makes it very hard to talk with people about it because they look at you like: "Stop whining, that's not as bad as that other person who has to take medications for it". At least i feel very alone because of it, since I can't really talk to anyone about it >.>

  54. Thanks +Kati Morton for shedding some light on this topic. Clearly there is a lot of ignorance surrounding this issue. This is awesome.

  55. at school i have 3 friends two of them has depression one has bipolar i have social anxity,depression and dissordered eating. I self harm and im very suicidal they're not but my other depressed friends make me feel like my depression is not even a thing. like its nothing compared theirs they always just casualy talk to the group about there feelings and how they pricked there finger on purpose. and then they talk about all this stuff. and im just there in long sleves, unbrushed hair, scissors in my pocket like im not even gonna try to explain… how last night i had to clean the blood of my blades and how im litraly on the verdge of tears they didn't even notice…

  56. knowing my mom and dad they probably think I'm overacting if i told them i have depresstion, im 13 i watched your 6 sighs and been to many websites and i feel like i have most of the symptoms except suicidal but i have thought but i know i would not ever cut or hurt myself i don't no what to do bacause i have my GCSE next year and stressing over that because i got a below in my ICT test and doing just that bext year so i dont want to make a big deal

  57. I keep trying to get that point in my head that because I tell someone something like suicide/self harm doesn't mean that I made them that way. I blame myself for a lot of things even if it's really not my fault

  58. I'm so glad Kati opened the box I sent her! I know this was awhile ago, but I don't remember if I posted a comment or not. I'm still raising money to go towards NAMI MD! I'm about $450 which is really close to my goal of donating $500. I can't wait to meet you one day Kati and maybe do a video on both of our channels!
    – Janay πŸ™‚

  59. just found this video today – and this is so right! I suffer from depression, but I am not suicidal. The thought might cross my mind every once in a while, but I made a pact with myself in my youth: I want to live and suicide would just be the opposite of this. And until today this works like a charm!

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