Could Overturning Roe Go Beyond Rolling Back Abortion Rights? | The Last Word | MSNBC

Could Overturning Roe Go Beyond Rolling Back Abortion Rights? | The Last Word | MSNBC


HUMIRA. HUMIRA.>>>WE ARE OPEN!>>>WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN! WE ARE OPEN!>>THAT WAS THE SCENE OUTSIDE>>THAT WAS THE SCENE OUTSIDE THE ST. LOUIS PLANNED THE ST. LOUIS PLANNED PARENTHOOD. PARENTHOOD. THE ONLY ABORTION SERVICES THE ONLY ABORTION SERVICES PROVIDER IN THE STATE OF PROVIDER IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI. MISSOURI. TODAY, THE UNITED STATES CAME TODAY, THE UNITED STATES CAME THE CLOSEST IT HAS COME IN THE CLOSEST IT HAS COME IN NEARLY HALF A CENTURY TO HAVING NEARLY HALF A CENTURY TO HAVING A UNITED STATES, A STATE, WITH A UNITED STATES, A STATE, WITH ABSOLUTELY NO ACCESS TO LEGAL ABSOLUTELY NO ACCESS TO LEGAL ABORTION SERVICES. ABORTION SERVICES. FOR YEARS, THE PLANNED FOR YEARS, THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN ST. LOUIS, PARENTHOOD IN ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI, HAS BEEN THAT STATE’S MISSOURI, HAS BEEN THAT STATE’S ONE AND ONLY ABORTIONS SERVICE ONE AND ONLY ABORTIONS SERVICE PROVIDER. PROVIDER. THAT FACILITY WAS SET TO CLOSE THAT FACILITY WAS SET TO CLOSE TODAY AFTER MISSOURI’S TODAY AFTER MISSOURI’S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, MIKE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, MIKE PARSON, ANNOUNCED THAT A STATE PARSON, ANNOUNCED THAT A STATE AUDIT FOUND WHAT HE CALLED, AUDIT FOUND WHAT HE CALLED, QUOTE, A NUMBER OF SERIOUS QUOTE, A NUMBER OF SERIOUS HEALTH CONCERNS, END QUOTE, AT HEALTH CONCERNS, END QUOTE, AT THE FACILITY. THE FACILITY. THE CLINIC REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH THE CLINIC REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH SERVICES, PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF SERVICES, PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF THE ST. LOUIS REGION, SAYS THE THE ST. LOUIS REGION, SAYS THE AUDIT’S RESULTS WERE POLITICALLY AUDIT’S RESULTS WERE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND THE STATE MADE MOTIVATED AND THE STATE MADE UNREASONABLE REQUESTS IN ORDER UNREASONABLE REQUESTS IN ORDER TO TRY TO FORCE THE CLINIC TO TO TRY TO FORCE THE CLINIC TO CLOSE. CLOSE. IN A RULING THIS AFTERNOON, IN A RULING THIS AFTERNOON, MISSOURI’S CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE MISSOURI’S CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE MICHAEL F. STELTZER RULED THE MICHAEL F. STELTZER RULED THE CLINIC WOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN CLINIC WOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN OPEN AS THE CASE WORKS ITS WAY OPEN AS THE CASE WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH THE COURTS. THROUGH THE COURTS. WRITING THAT SUCH A DECISION WRITING THAT SUCH A DECISION WAS, “NECESSARY TO PRESERVE THE WAS, “NECESSARY TO PRESERVE THE STATUS QUO AND PREVENT STATUS QUO AND PREVENT IRREPARABLE INJURY.” IRREPARABLE INJURY.” THIS RULING COMES JUST ONE WEEK THIS RULING COMES JUST ONE WEEK AFTER THAT SAME MISSOURI AFTER THAT SAME MISSOURI GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW A BAN GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW A BAN ON ALL ABORTIONS IN THE STATE ON ALL ABORTIONS IN THE STATE AFTER EIGHT WEEKS OF PREGNANCY. AFTER EIGHT WEEKS OF PREGNANCY. THE LATEST IN A SERIES OF THE LATEST IN A SERIES OF RESTRICTIVE ABORTION LAWS AROUND RESTRICTIVE ABORTION LAWS AROUND THE COUNTRY. THE COUNTRY. ON WEDNESDAY, LOUISIANA’S ON WEDNESDAY, LOUISIANA’S DEMOCRATIC ANTIABORTION GOVERNOR DEMOCRATIC ANTIABORTION GOVERNOR JOHN BELL EDWARDS SIGNED INTO JOHN BELL EDWARDS SIGNED INTO LAW A SIMILARLY RESTRICTIVE BAN LAW A SIMILARLY RESTRICTIVE BAN ON ABORTIONS AFTER SIX WEEKS. ON ABORTIONS AFTER SIX WEEKS. A PERIOD DURING WHICH SOME WOMEN A PERIOD DURING WHICH SOME WOMEN DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE PREGNANT PREGNANT PREGNANT. PREGNANT. THIS IS ALL PART OF AN EFFORT BY THIS IS ALL PART OF AN EFFORT BY ANTIABORTION FORCES AROUND THE ANTIABORTION FORCES AROUND THE COUNTRY TO PUSH THE ISSUE TO THE COUNTRY TO PUSH THE ISSUE TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TO UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TO TRY TO GET THE COURT’S TRY TO GET THE COURT’S CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY TO CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY TO OVERTURN THE LANDMARK PRECEDENT OVERTURN THE LANDMARK PRECEDENT IN ROE V. WADE, WHICH COTFIED IN ROE V. WADE, WHICH COTFIED THE RIGHT TO AN ABORTION IN THE THE RIGHT TO AN ABORTION IN THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES. EARLIER THIS EVENING THE FORMER EARLIER THIS EVENING THE FORMER HEAD OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD, HEAD OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD, CECILE RICHARDS, JOINED CHRIS CECILE RICHARDS, JOINED CHRIS HAYES AND ISSUED THIS STARK HAYES AND ISSUED THIS STARK WARNING. WARNING.>>THIS IS NOT A DRILL, NOT AN>>THIS IS NOT A DRILL, NOT AN INTELLECTUAL QUESTION. INTELLECTUAL QUESTION. ROE IS AT RISK AND THE HEALTH ROE IS AT RISK AND THE HEALTH CARE AND WELLBEING OF MILLIONS CARE AND WELLBEING OF MILLIONS OF WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY. OF WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY.>>THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING>>THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW THE SUPREME COURT WILL RULE HOW THE SUPREME COURT WILL RULE ON A CHALLENGE TO ROE V. WADE IF ON A CHALLENGE TO ROE V. WADE IF IT CHOOSES TO RULE ON ONE AT ALL IT CHOOSES TO RULE ON ONE AT ALL BUT ANTIABORTION ADVOCATES ARE BUT ANTIABORTION ADVOCATES ARE CONFIDENT THIS SUPREME COURT MAY CONFIDENT THIS SUPREME COURT MAY BE WILLING TO OVERTURN ONE OF BE WILLING TO OVERTURN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT RULINGS OF THE MOST IMPORTANT RULINGS OF THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS. THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS. BUT HERE’S THE THING TO BUT HERE’S THE THING TO CONSIDER. CONSIDER. REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU STAND ON REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU STAND ON ABORTION, LET ALONE THE LEGALITY ABORTION, LET ALONE THE LEGALITY OF IT, ROE WAS NOT JUST A OF IT, ROE WAS NOT JUST A LANDMARK CASE FOR ABORTION LANDMARK CASE FOR ABORTION RIGHTS BUT FOR AMERICAN LEGAL RIGHTS BUT FOR AMERICAN LEGAL JURISPRUDENCE, AND SPECIFICALLY, JURISPRUDENCE, AND SPECIFICALLY, AS IT RELATED TO PRIVACY. AS IT RELATED TO PRIVACY. SO WHAT WOULD IT MEAN FOR THE SO WHAT WOULD IT MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR LEGAL SYSTEM, FUTURE OF OUR LEGAL SYSTEM, INDEED, OUR EXPECTATION OF INDEED, OUR EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY, IF ROE V. WADE WERE TO PRIVACY, IF ROE V. WADE WERE TO FALL? FALL? JOINING ME TO HELP ANSWER THAT JOINING ME TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION IS JEFFREY ROSEN, QUESTION IS JEFFREY ROSEN, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE NATIONAL CONSTITUTION CENTER AND NATIONAL CONSTITUTION CENTER AND AUTHOR OF THE BOOK “THE SUPREME AUTHOR OF THE BOOK “THE SUPREME COURT: THE PERSONALITIES AND COURT: THE PERSONALITIES AND RIVALRIES THAT DEFINED AMERICA” RIVALRIES THAT DEFINED AMERICA” AND SEVERAL OTHER BOOKS ON THE AND SEVERAL OTHER BOOKS ON THE PRESIDENCY AND THE COURT. PRESIDENCY AND THE COURT. JEFF, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH JEFF, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. US TONIGHT. THE DECISION IN ROE WAS BASED ON THE DECISION IN ROE WAS BASED ON A BROADER UNDERSTANDING OF THE A BROADER UNDERSTANDING OF THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY AS OUTLINED IN RIGHT TO PRIVACY AS OUTLINED IN THE 14th AMENDMENT OF THE THE 14th AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION. CONSTITUTION. SO THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU SO THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS, WHAT MIGHT THE TONIGHT IS, WHAT MIGHT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF CHALLENGING ROE BECAUSE OF ONE’S CHALLENGING ROE BECAUSE OF ONE’S BELIEF ABOUT ABORTION, WHAT BELIEF ABOUT ABORTION, WHAT COULD THOSE UNINTENDED COULD THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BE? CONSEQUENCES BE?>>WELL, YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT>>WELL, YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT ROE IS BASED ON A FLOEGSNOT THAT ROE IS BASED ON A FLOEGSNOT PRIVACY. PRIVACY. IT CAME FROM A CASE CALLED IT CAME FROM A CASE CALLED GRISWOLD V. CONNECTICUT, GRISWOLD V. CONNECTICUT, RECOGNIZED A MARRIED COUPLE’S RECOGNIZED A MARRIED COUPLE’S RIGHT TO USE CONTINUE SEPGS.CONT RIGHT TO USE CONTINUE SEPGS.CONT ROE WAS EXTENDED IN CASES MOST ROE WAS EXTENDED IN CASES MOST NOTABLY THE MARRIAGE EQUALITY NOTABLY THE MARRIAGE EQUALITY CASE WHICH ROOTED ITS CASE WHICH ROOTED ITS RECOGNITION OF THE RIGHT OF ALL RECOGNITION OF THE RIGHT OF ALL PEOPLE TO MARRY THOSE WHOM THEY PEOPLE TO MARRY THOSE WHOM THEY LOVED AND IDEAS OF PRIVACY, LOVED AND IDEAS OF PRIVACY, DIGNITY, AND JURISPRUDENTIALLY, DIGNITY, AND JURISPRUDENTIALLY, BE. BE. STATES LIKE MISSOURI AND ALABAMA STATES LIKE MISSOURI AND ALABAMA AND GEORGIA ARE NOW GOING A STEP AND GEORGIA ARE NOW GOING A STEP FURTHER, THEY’RE SAYING THE FURTHER, THEY’RE SAYING THE FETUS IS A FULL CONSTITUTIONALLY FETUS IS A FULL CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED PERSON FROM THE MOMENT PROTECTED PERSON FROM THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION. OF CONCEPTION. AND IF THE COURT IN OVERTURNING AND IF THE COURT IN OVERTURNING ROE WERE TO AGREE THAT STATES ROE WERE TO AGREE THAT STATES HAVE THE RIGHT OR EVEN THE HAVE THE RIGHT OR EVEN THE OBLIGATION UNDER THE OBLIGATION UNDER THE CONSTITUTION TO RECOGNIZE FETAL CONSTITUTION TO RECOGNIZE FETAL PERSONHOOD, THEN A WHOLE SERIES PERSONHOOD, THEN A WHOLE SERIES OF OTHER LAWS AND UNDERSTANDINGS OF OTHER LAWS AND UNDERSTANDINGS COULD FALL. COULD FALL. PEOPLE COULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY PEOPLE COULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT FOR UNBORN CHILD SUPPORT FOR UNBORN FETUSES. FETUSES. IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE THAT A IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE THAT A COUPLE THAT USED IN VITRO COUPLE THAT USED IN VITRO FERTILIZATION AND DESTROYED AN FERTILIZATION AND DESTROYED AN EMBRYO IN THE COURSE OF DOING EMBRYO IN THE COURSE OF DOING THAT COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR THAT COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR HOMICIDE AND EVEN MORE HOMICIDE AND EVEN MORE SPECIFICALLY, A NONCITIZEN WHO SPECIFICALLY, A NONCITIZEN WHO IS PREGNANT, A WOMAN, MIGHT NOT IS PREGNANT, A WOMAN, MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO BE DEPORTED UNLESS BE ABLE TO BE DEPORTED UNLESS HER UNBORN PRE-CITIZEN FREE TUS HER UNBORN PRE-CITIZEN FREE TUS HAD SOME KIND OF JUDICIAL HAD SOME KIND OF JUDICIAL HEARING. HEARING. THE CONSEQUENCES OF RECOGNIZING THE CONSEQUENCES OF RECOGNIZING FETAL PERSONHOOD IN THE LAW HAS FETAL PERSONHOOD IN THE LAW HAS BEEN CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED BEEN CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED COULD BE VERY, VERY SWEEPING, COULD BE VERY, VERY SWEEPING, INDEED, AND THAT’S WHY THIS INDEED, AND THAT’S WHY THIS STRATEGY IS SO SIGNIFICANT AND STRATEGY IS SO SIGNIFICANT AND REALLY DESERVES OUR CLOSE REALLY DESERVES OUR CLOSE ATTENTION. ATTENTION.>>SO I’M WAY IN OVER MY HEAD AT>>SO I’M WAY IN OVER MY HEAD AT THIS POINT BUT I’M GOING TO ASK THIS POINT BUT I’M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT A QUOTE FROM THE 1974 YOU ABOUT A QUOTE FROM THE 1974 DECISION, MITCHELL V. W.T. DECISION, MITCHELL V. W.T. GRANT, TLAFS ACTUALLYHAT WAS ACT GRANT, TLAFS ACTUALLYHAT WAS ACT IN THE 1991 CASE PLANNED IN THE 1991 CASE PLANNED PARENTHOOD VERSUS CASEY ABOUT PARENTHOOD VERSUS CASEY ABOUT CHANGING ESTABLISHED DECISIONS CHANGING ESTABLISHED DECISIONS OR ESTABLISHED LAW BASED ON THE OR ESTABLISHED LAW BASED ON THE SUPREME COURT’S MAKEUP. SUPREME COURT’S MAKEUP. THE COURT IS THIS. THE COURT IS THIS. “A BASIC CHANGE IN THE LAW UPON “A BASIC CHANGE IN THE LAW UPON A GROUND NO FIRMER THAN A CHANGE A GROUND NO FIRMER THAN A CHANGE IN OUR MEMBERSHIP INVITES THE IN OUR MEMBERSHIP INVITES THE POPULAR MISCONCEPTION THAT THIS POPULAR MISCONCEPTION THAT THIS INSTITUTION,” MEANING THE INSTITUTION,” MEANING THE SUPREME COURT,” IS LITTLE SUPREME COURT,” IS LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE TWO POLITICAL DIFFERENT THAN THE TWO POLITICAL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT. BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT. NO MISCONCEPTION COULD DO NO NO MISCONCEPTION COULD DO NO LASTING INJURY TO THIS COURT AND LASTING INJURY TO THIS COURT AND THE SYSTEM OF LAW WHICH IS OUR THE SYSTEM OF LAW WHICH IS OUR ABIDING MISSION TO SERVICE.” ABIDING MISSION TO SERVICE.” IT WAS QUOTED IN H1991. IT WAS QUOTED IN H1991. DOES THIS STILL HOLD? DOES THIS STILL HOLD?>>WELL, IT’S A CONCERN OF MANY>>WELL, IT’S A CONCERN OF MANY JUSTICES, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE JUSTICES, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UNITED CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UNITED STATES, JOHN ROBERTS. STATES, JOHN ROBERTS. HE’S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HE’S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL LEGITIMACY. INSTITUTIONAL LEGITIMACY. IN A DECISION LAST YEAR IN A DECISION LAST YEAR EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF PRECEDENT. PRECEDENT. HE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT HE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT CITIZENS MIGHT THINK OF THE CITIZENS MIGHT THINK OF THE COURT AS POLITICAL, IF ITS COURT AS POLITICAL, IF ITS DECISIONS CHANGE BASED ON ITS DECISIONS CHANGE BASED ON ITS MEMBERSHIP. MEMBERSHIP. HE HAS EMBRACED THE SAME THREE HE HAS EMBRACED THE SAME THREE CRITERIA THAT THAT DECISION YOU CRITERIA THAT THAT DECISION YOU CITED, CASEY V. PLANNED CITED, CASEY V. PLANNED PARENTHOOD USED IN EVALUATING PARENTHOOD USED IN EVALUATING WHETHER DECISIONS SHOULD BE WHETHER DECISIONS SHOULD BE OVERTURNED. OVERTURNED. FIRST, HAS SOCIETY COME TO RELY FIRST, HAS SOCIETY COME TO RELY ON THEM? ON THEM? SECOND, HAVE FACTS CHANGED? SECOND, HAVE FACTS CHANGED? AND THIRD, WOULD — HAS THE AND THIRD, WOULD — HAS THE DECISION BECOME UNWORKABLE? DECISION BECOME UNWORKABLE? AND THOSE ARE THE SAME AND THOSE ARE THE SAME CONSIDERATIONS THAT HE WOULD CONSIDERATIONS THAT HE WOULD WEIGH NOW. WEIGH NOW. THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM FOR THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE AT THE BETTER OR FOR WORSE AT THE MOMENT IS THAT THE CHIEF IS NOT MOMENT IS THAT THE CHIEF IS NOT EAGER TO HEAR CASES THAT WOULD EAGER TO HEAR CASES THAT WOULD DIRECTLY CHALLENGE ROE. DIRECTLY CHALLENGE ROE. THAT’S WHY JUST THIS WEEK THE THAT’S WHY JUST THIS WEEK THE COURT UNANIMOUSLY REFUSED TO COURT UNANIMOUSLY REFUSED TO CONSIDER A CHALLENGE TO THE CONSIDER A CHALLENGE TO THE HEART OF AN INDIANA LAW THAT HEART OF AN INDIANA LAW THAT RESTRICTED SEX-SELECTION-BASED RESTRICTED SEX-SELECTION-BASED ABORTION, SO AN INSTITUTION ABORTION, SO AN INSTITUTION INSTITUTIONALLY-MINDED CHIEF HAS INSTITUTIONALLY-MINDED CHIEF HAS ALSO PERSUADED JUSTICE KAVANAUGH ALSO PERSUADED JUSTICE KAVANAUGH IN A CASE INVOLVING PRIVILEGES IN A CASE INVOLVING PRIVILEGES OF HOSPITALS TO VOTE AGAINST OF HOSPITALS TO VOTE AGAINST HEARING THE CASE BECAUSE HE DOES HEARING THE CASE BECAUSE HE DOES NOT SEEM AT THE MOMENT TO BE IN NOT SEEM AT THE MOMENT TO BE IN A RUSH TO OVERTURN ROE. A RUSH TO OVERTURN ROE. WHAT’S SO SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THIS WHAT’S SO SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THIS DEBATE IS THE STATES ARE MAKING DEBATE IS THE STATES ARE MAKING IT HARDER AND HARDER FOR THE IT HARDER AND HARDER FOR THE COURT TO DUCK THIS QUESTION BY COURT TO DUCK THIS QUESTION BY EMBRACING THESE BROAD CLAIMS EMBRACING THESE BROAD CLAIMS ABOUT FETAL PERSONHOOD THAT AS ABOUT FETAL PERSONHOOD THAT AS BLACKMAN IN ROE, HIMSELF, BLACKMAN IN ROE, HIMSELF, ACKNOWLEDGED STRIKE AT THE CORE ACKNOWLEDGED STRIKE AT THE CORE OF THE REASONING IN ROE V. WADE. OF THE REASONING IN ROE V. WADE.>>I GOT 30 SECONDS LEFT.>>I GOT 30 SECONDS LEFT. I WANT TO ASK YOU DOES THE ISSUE I WANT TO ASK YOU DOES THE ISSUE OF WHETHER A JUSTICE THINKS A OF WHETHER A JUSTICE THINKS A CASE IN THE PAST WAS IN THEIR CASE IN THE PAST WAS IN THEIR OPINION WRONGLY DECIDED COME OPINION WRONGLY DECIDED COME INTO PLAY HERE? INTO PLAY HERE?>>YES.>>YES. THOSE THREE CRITERIA APPLY IF THOSE THREE CRITERIA APPLY IF EVEN THEY THINK IT WAS WIDELY EVEN THEY THINK IT WAS WIDELY DECIDED AS THEY MAY HAVE DONE DECIDED AS THEY MAY HAVE DONE WHEN THEY UPHELD ROE V. WADE, WHEN THEY UPHELD ROE V. WADE, THEIR STILL NOT THEIR STILL NOT THEY’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO — IF THEY’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO — IF THE DECISION ISN’T UNWORKABLE, THE DECISION ISN’T UNWORKABLE, THOSE ARE THE THREE CHIRITERIA A THOSE ARE THE THREE CHIRITERIA A GOING TO BE HUGELY IMPORTANT GOING TO BE HUGELY IMPORTANT ALONG WITH AN OVERWHELMING ALONG WITH AN OVERWHELMING QUESTION YOU IDENTIFIED, SO QUESTION YOU IDENTIFIED, SO IMPORTANT, ALI, OF THE CHIEF

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  1. This is why the Democrats have to take back the presidency, Senate and hold the house in 2020. I couldn’t imagine how much farther we would go if we had this dirt bag in the office in for another four years.
    We obviously can’t count on the GOP.

  2. Not never for there well health. Abortion murder causes depresion then that motheres mentel hesth is then a big problem in her life

  3. Please accept my condolences
    For the death of the wife of the former 6th Indonesian president (Ani Yudhoyono) at National University Hospital Singapore: '(

  4. The white population in America is dying faster than its birth rates are rising and now some genius has come up with a "good" idea to control female reproductive rights to preserve white population & hold on to white's position of power in America. This case is not about any sudden "Christian" conscience but about the pathetic last ditch efforts made by whites to fight a fight already lost! SMH! ✌

  5. How is it possible for people to be more concerned about the fate of an embryo than the fate of those who were gunned down in Virginia Beach?

  6. Sperm & egg are 1st cells, gametes, zygotes but. …. NOT a fetus. Get some Science you men fools and stay out of my health care.

  7. This guy makes sense…

    and he also sounds like Kermit the Frog and Ray Ramano has a baby that loved constitutional law.

  8. The question isn't when life begins; that's a given. The question is where does the control over someone else's body END.
    *I'm not asking for anyone's opinion, just stating mine. I don't want to debate so save your fingers.

  9. Who is going to hold God accountable for all the miscarriages and natural abortions that he causes to happen on a daily basis around the world? Maybe people can also have a say on whether or not to have an abortion. Remember that God gave us free will, he will never force us to do his will, and the bible is also pro choice.

  10. These new regulations could also imply that if a woman has a miscarriage, she could be accused of having an abortion and possibly go to jail.

  11. Problem is that with no legal abortion clinics left, I see more women committing suicide, more men murdering women for their unwanted pregnancy, more women trying to have unsafe abortions at home, more children who will grow up without parents, just more ruined lives all around.

  12. Just because you guys delete the facts doesn't make them less true. Abortion and Circumcision both need to stop. Infants are vulnerable and precious, they must be protected, not murdered or genitally mutilated. Gg

  13. The Book of Exodus clearly indicates that the fetus does not have the same legal status as a person (Chapter 21:22-23). That verse indicates that if a man pushes a pregnant woman and she then miscarries, he is required only to pay a fine. If the fetus were considered a full person, he would be punished more severely as though he had taken a life. [Editor's note: Read more detailed pro-choice and pro-life analyses of Exodus 21.]
    Read more at https://www.beliefnet.com/news/2003/01/the-biblical-basis-forbeing-pro-choice.aspx#H1BtU56m1w7GVE3D.99

  14. I am old enough to remember how it was when abortion was illegal . Back street abortions leading to more deaths, of course this only hurt the poor as the rich flew out of state/country & got the best of care, this attempt at banning abortion wont stop abortion it will only force it underground

  15. Men uninvolved have no voice. Let's go after their health care.,BAN VIAGARA. MANDATORY VASECTOMIES. BAN MEN FROM HAVING ANY SAY IN WOMENS HEALTH AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH.
    The Law must consider the Greater Good.

  16. Any Republican man responsible for unwanted pregnancies should be castrated. That would also solve the issue.

  17. This is just religion used for the wrong purpose. Any person pointing to religion as reason for lawmaking should be stoned to death for violating the separation of state and religion-part of the constituton.

  18. Women also have the RIGHT to use protection. Then killing their unborn children wouldn't have to be an option. Seems what women really want is the right to be lazy in the bedroom.

  19. Evil and wickedness is the true nature of the woman. Their love of abortion is a manifestation of that

  20. Now think of this. If for some reason the courts overturn Roe.

    What would ever drag another gop women to their voting booth?

    What would their interest be then?
    It would literally destroy the gop.

    Political scientific question.

  21. At this point in history it's a matter of simply correcting a wrongly decided judicial decision made by SCOTUS. Every person including unborn people have an absolute GOD given and Constitutional right to LIFE, no matter the circumstances that have created the person.

  22. I read an article in Time magazine recently on abortion. Prior to the legalization of abortion, it was common for hospitals to have entire units just to treat women who had illegal abortions. Think about that. Entire units filled with women that were so desperate that they risked their lives to have an illegal abortion. Why? Why would we ever want to return to such a dreadful time?

  23. It's not a healthcare threat, because women will NEVER be turned away from REAL hospitals with REAL doctors as long as they have legit life and death problems…The real doctors must forced to prove they are not committing industrialized infanticide or disposing the viciously mutilated remains in the county dump.

  24. If you don't think that criminalising abortion is not the thin end of the wedge for further and more draconian Christian fundamentalist repression, you are the epitome of naive.

  25. okay, people, the gun debate is over. Back to abortion. Please show more enthusiasm. Viewers are drifting over to the Global Warming thing.

  26. 5:06 – the added bonus for the Kristian Taliban is that they get to go after birth right citizenship by changing the definition from birth to conception on the basis that a two cell clump is a legal person….

  27. These "heatbeats" are no such thing there is NO heart at either 6 or 8 weeks medically just two tubes that barely flutter! Know your Facts not emotional fairytales based on a story of a skygod. Who in his holy book is PRO-abortion, if you think your wife has been cheating on you. So please think about what you believe blindly.

  28. 90% of Americans had no problem with abortion in the first trimester. Now the left has pushed it to actually killing children that have constitutional rights. That is the whole problem. Democrat are following the Nazi doctrine more and more every day. Not talking just about abortion either.

  29. Let's say that Roe v. Wade is overturned. We then have a situation where bodily autonomy is negated where a "life" is concerned. "Life" trumps individual right? Okay. So you lose the right to refuse your organs being used to save a life after you die. You are dead so you don't get to deny the saving of a life. Loss of bodily autonomy. You can also be required to vaccinate because you can cause the death of people with compromised immune systems who encounter you and catch your disease. You can't be allowed to put others at risk so you must immunize. When the state has the legal right to tell you what to do with your own body, everyone becomes vulnerable, not just people with wombs.

  30. So lets extend this also to the seeds and eggs. Trillions of lives are lost when males are jerking off, lets punish them. For every lives lost 1 dollar fine. Btw since were making laws as we go, lets make a law which require people to prove their religion. You claim god exists? Prove it, you cant, no tax exemption, no status of non political, no status of non profit.

  31. Michael Smith, you apparently don't understand the mortality rates of women who have illegal abortions. They die, Michael. Even with all the antibiotics and advanced care that we can provide. They wait until they are deathly ill to get help. It may be too late to save them. They may need their uterus removed, they may become sterile. So many women died. Abortion is an awful thing. But making it illegal will only cause more deaths of women using coathangers, knitting needles, etc to deal with an unwanted pregnancy. I cannot judge a woman who is in this situation. Why can't we be merciful as a nation? Why can't we heed Jesus's words? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone?

  32. You have to draw the line some where, 6 weeks is a little soon. It should probably be 12 weeks. After that, sorry put the child up for adoption.

  33. The battle over Roe is a useful diversion for Trump and a useful oppression for the GOP agenda. A double edged sword, you might say.

  34. The Constitution clearly states that citizens are those BORN in the US. Therefore, fetuses are in the country illegally and must be deported immediately. BUILD THE WALL!!

  35. If you think abortion is murder then you by god better be protesting war. War is nothing but murder of people in another country that you decide you don't like.

  36. I see said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw. Male masturbation could eventually be outlawed due to the killing of sperm cell lives? Wake up dudes. This all ties in with the prehistoric John Harvey Kellogg of the Kellogg Cereal Company and his anti masturbation movement. Hmmmm Wake up dudes. By the way, punished for masturbation was being circumcised without pain killers. Wake up dudes.

  37. Black people are the overwhelming majority of most African countries, Asians are the overwhelming majority of most Asian countries, and both will continue to be so in the foreseeable future, So when you hear that White people are projected to be a minority in ALL White countries within decades, what does that mean to you?
    Massive non-White immigration is occurring in ALL White countries and ONLY in White countries. This is part of a program of genocide against White children.
    They say it's anti-racist, but it's simply anti-White.
    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

  38. https://www.dailywire.com/news/47907/walsh-illinois-set-repeal-its-ban-partial-birth-matt-walsh?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=dailywire.com&utm_term=68708&utm_content=1

  39. Our Democratic governor in Louisiana is a devote catholic and I'm sure his priest told him to do this. It is purely imposing his religious dogma on all citizens of our state much like our legislature does consistently. They have no respect for civil rights or human rights if it conflicts with their religious beliefs. Also the governor is up for re-election and thinks he must go with religion over civil rights to win another term. Our state of Louisiana is tainted by the fanatical Focus on the Family religious terriorist group who has a firm grip on our legislature. It is terrifying to see the theocratic zealots run a secular country's state.

  40. Watch the true story unplanned movie. This network banned advertising it, because planned parenthood told them to. UNPLANNED MOVIE banned by much of the media shame on them.

  41. What part of Roe. V Wade stated that killing a baby is a woman's right? Especially in the 2nd and 3rd trimester!

  42. Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973) Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy".

  43. YEA WELL = I GOT = THE BEST PHONE Abortion VIDEO YET ???!!!… = HERE … = ( UR NOT SUPPOST TO LAUGH ??? = At Sht Like This ??? = ) = Here … LOL !!! = https://youtu.be/zqaufk4mhvQ

  44. How dare these governors dictate how any woman lives their life? It's none of their business. #RequireVasectomy

  45. A set of DNA is NOT a unique human being. A fertilized egg is NOT a tiny homumculus with a person inside it, though that was one of the ancient ideas of how it worked. It is more like a book of recipes with various components and partial ingredients and corrective instructions that might, if everything goes well, eventually produce one of an infinite number of possible human beings. Even that is a gross oversimplification, but it's more than the simpleminded fools are capable of understanding.

  46. Make men to be as accountable as women when conceiving…..they will be the ones asking for legal and safe abortions

  47. So now, India is going back to the trade that pays the most. Prostitution! Starting from the Prime Minister, all the way fown the food chain. Don't worry, India, dumpf will throw you under the bus as well.

  48. Really??? WTF? All the Handmaids are wearing red for the signing of that bill? How bizarre this cult has no shame whatsoever.

  49. The INVISIBLE "God" is the leading character in Hebrew MYTHOLOGY and that's why religions are the greatest money making scams in history. The religions beg their followers for 10% of their money EVERY SUNDAY until they drop dead from old age and 85% of that money goes directly into the pockets of the church's OWNERS as their untraceable tax free income. People build churches to make a LOT of money for themselves and as long as gullible people exist religions will exist to rip them off.

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